The Body Image Revolution
Raw, unfiltered conversations about what it really takes to love your reflection, feel sexy in your skin, and build a legacy of radical self-love for yourself and future generations - without the toxic positivity or any of the BS.
Hosted by body confidence coach and boudoir photographer, Rebecca Sigala.
The Body Image Revolution
Hustling for Worthiness Ends Here With Adi Zelnik Nouriel
In this episode, I sit down with my client Adi, a creative entrepreneur and single mom who hustled for years before joining The New Sexy. We talk about what it means to stop hustling for worthiness, come home to the body, and release the self-criticism that once drove everything. We also explore the coaching industry, shame, and what becomes available when you start caring for yourself from a place of love instead of trying to prove yourself.
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Hello everyone. Welcome to the Body Image Revolution. There's something really important that I want to name right now because this is something that I've heard so many women share with me over the years, and I've been doing this for many years and spoke to so many women about their relationships with their bodies. And that's that they don't feel that they actually hate their bodies, and this is something that I very much relate to because even when I was in a place of feeling disconnected from my body and constantly wanting to change it or never felt like it was really enough, there were also moments when I did love the way that it looked. And there were also moments that I did really take care of it. But what I realized is that I didn't feel allowed to feel fully good in my body. I didn't feel allowed to fully embrace my body and the way that it looks without having to change it. That's what society has taught us. So there's this gap between not hating our bodies, but maybe feeling disconnected from it, feeling ambivalent about it, feeling good about it sometimes and not so good others. And then fully embracing your body. And that gap is actually pretty big. And we don't realize it because we're told that it's not even possible. We're told that if we actually feel good in our bodies and we feel good about the way that we look, and we don't feel like we have to change them, that we're gonna become complacent or delusional or let ourselves go. And that's actually the opposite of what happens in this work. And today's conversation really goes right to the heart of that concept. I have a beautiful soul on the podcast. Her name's Adi. she joined the New Sexy in June of 2025 so just months ago now. And wow, so much has changed. And she was really in that place of not feeling that she hated her body. She actually didn't even necessarily feel that she had the traditional body image struggles, but she knew something felt off in her body. She wanted to feel differently in her body. She wanted to feel differently about herself, and she wanted to trust herself again. That's really where this work lives. In embodiment, in deepening your relationship with your body in your self-trust and your intuition, the way you relate to yourself and the way you show up in the world and what unfolded for Adi weren't just wins or progress. They were identity shifting, mind blowing changes that truly touched every part of her life. So this conversation is really honest, deeply real, and I'm so grateful that you're here for it. I'm so excited for you to hear about her journey, and I know that you're gonna relate to it and take so much from this conversation. first of all, thank you so much for coming on and doing this, and I'm really excited. I'm really glad that we're just, you know, not prepared because we're gonna be talking a lot about authenticity and just being ourselves. So here we are. Thank you so much for coming on.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Thank you for having me, for inviting me. I'm happy to be here.
Rebecca Sigala:Of course, of course. So. Where do we even start?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Um, you know what I was thinking about this morning? I don't know if you remember this, but like a bunch of years ago you did my headshot and like, professional branding photos. Of course I remember this I was just thinking about how far like we've both come since then, you know, and like yeah, whenever I looked at those pictures, like throughout the years, I was like, use some of them. And like, it's like a collection of photos that I made like the brief for with a branding coach that I was working with. who was like super sweet but Her method of branding was like to find the box that I would put myself into. and I feel like most of those photos, like they're, they're good, they're professional, like they're high quality images, but the thing that comes through them is like almost inauthentic except for these like two or three pictures that you insisted on taking that were like, not in the plan, but like
Rebecca Sigala:what were they, how were they different?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:They were like more sensual. I was like super pregnant at the time. Oh. And, uh, I
Rebecca Sigala:was like, let's just do boudoir. Like take your clothes off. Yeah. You were
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:like, take this teacup and stand over there. And I was in your studio. and I remember thinking like, I can't use this for my website, but. God, I wish I could because like they're, they, even then I felt like they were like the most me.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm. what was your relationship with your body back then? First of all, how many years ago was this?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Wow. Uh, geez. This had to be like, at least like six years ago.
Rebecca Sigala:Wow. Wow. I have a very clear memory of that. Shoot. And like a couple of those pictures. yeah. what was your relationship with your body back then? Was that your first kid or No, that wasn't your first. No, that was like my third. Yeah. Third. Okay. I guess the reason I ask is'cause I just feel like people obviously listening, they can't see those pictures and they can't see you now, and it's like such an evolution. I agree. I had an evolution as well. but I'd love for people to know a little bit about your story and your relationship with your body over the years.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. So I, wow. it's funny how it's like hard for me to, we talk about this all the time inside, like The New Sexy in our conversations, but it's still kind of hard to say it publicly. Like maybe that should be the next, uh, milestone. But, um, yeah, definitely. But I never like, hated my body. Yeah. I actually like, I love my body. I appreciate, I love how like all the things that it does for me and has done for me and will do for me. And, the way that I feel in it and the way that it looks and, I never really realized that because like any time, like I would look in the mirror and feel like even a sliver of satisfaction immediately, be replaced by like, oh, but let's find something to not like to not like. And, yeah. Wow. it's crazy how it's so ingrained and it's just such a, like, normal part of life.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm-hmm. it's just such a tangible picture of how women are basically conditioned and not given the permission to actually love themselves.'cause you're sitting there standing in front of the mirror. You're like, oh, I actually do like the way I look. I like who I am. But right away, all of these thoughts and this criticism, you're not supposed,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I'll tell you what the crazy thing is. Like, first of all, you're not supposed to, like, I think we both know, these like. Women who are objectively just like gorgeous, like flawless, and they like find things to dislike about themselves. And it almost
Rebecca Sigala:according to beauty standards, just wanna add that in
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:according to beauty. Right? But you look at people and, and don't you sometimes, like, even not according to beauty, whatever, like even your friends, you know what I mean? Like mm-hmm. There's always the people that you would find the most amazing looking like physically amazing. Mm-hmm. Not good personality. That's important too, but like, just like really good looking people And it's almost like if you don't find like something to nitpick and like, hate or like wanna fix about yourself, you are not doing it right. Like, there, you're not getting something. You're, you're, yeah. Like
Rebecca Sigala:you're not self-aware or something.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:you're not even like, to me, I realize Recently is like, part of being a woman means to feel like you're not okay.
Rebecca Sigala:Oh my God, that's so fucking horrible.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Horrible. It's horrible, horrible when you say it like that.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:And it's horrible how like it's so normalized that it's invisible. Like if we hadn't had the conversations that we had, I'm not sure I would've noticed that.
Rebecca Sigala:Wow. Yeah. It's like you're not good enough if you think you're good enough. Mm-hmm. Whoa. I don't think I've ever said that. That's really quite fucked up.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:It's really fucked up and it's, yeah, I mean it's a huge mind fuck And so that's something that I had walked around with for ages, I don't know, you kind of like feel like this fucking lunatic for being chill with yourself and even loving yourself, you know, like, when everyone around you, it's like always in the conversation. Always with, yeah, always with the girlfriends. Like things that they wanna fix. Always with like, hearing men talking about other women and like, the only people who don't do this is like very small children who still like, haven't learned, you know?
Rebecca Sigala:Right. Yeah. So if this wasn't something that was kind of at the forefront of your mind or in your. Consciousness on a daily basis. How did you get drawn to doing this work and reaching out to me about The New Sexy?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:okay, so it's like a, I think it's a couple of things. I'm gonna try to not like, go too much in circles about it, but, um, I'll help
Rebecca Sigala:you. I'll help, yeah. Yeah, I'll help the conversation about
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:You're gonna, you're gonna like, tie it all together in a bow. Yeah. first of all, like, you've been in my like sphere, for a long time, like since, since then, and even before then. And I, I watched your evolution, I watched your growth and I kept following you like pretty silently, but mm-hmm. Um, very silently.
Rebecca Sigala:I don't think I realized you were following me until like a couple weeks before you reached out.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I was, I was following closely.
Rebecca Sigala:It's a good reminder for us business owners.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. Yeah. A silent majority. Yes. Um, but I really, you know how we both did like grow a lot since that like headshot moment, but I, I really, when looking at you, I felt like your growth was very steady. Mm. And very consistent. Not in terms of like, there's no ups and downs, but in terms of the direction that you were going in and you were kind of like becoming more and more of yourself.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:That's at least how I perceived it, you know, just being your I'm not outside. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I would say that's accurate.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:That's what it looks like, you know? Yeah. and, and especially because it's something that I really wanted for myself and I felt like I'd been going through like maybe a similar growth process, but only taking like the slaps in the face and kind of staying in this like going around in circles and like charging up all this like transformational energy. meaning that what. Like I was in my life moving farther away from myself. And
Rebecca Sigala:even though you were on your healing journey and like doing these transformational things
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yes. like every part of it looked and felt like a dip, looked and felt like movement in the wrong direction.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:But for me, for like where I was and my ability and like my understanding and what I was like able to process and handle at the time or, or what I believed I could handle at the time was only like pulling the rubber band, like this way of all this, just creating like so much tension and Yeah. and so this whole time I feel like I'm getting farther away from myself, but I'm like in complete denial about it, not doing anything. And just like everything around me is falling apart and getting worse, and I'm pretending that it's not. and the day before I reached out to you, was like, the day that I finalized my divorce and it like, surprised me, like how difficult it was to go through that.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm-hmm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I had been separated. Yeah. I was like disembodied and like just dissociating and just this, everything. Like, not that I wasn't feeling anything. I wasn't depressed during like, the time before, but I was like feeling through proxies that weren't like the real thing. Yeah. And suddenly it was there and I expected it to be like this meaningless, you know, official document, whatever. Like it's already done. We're separated. We've been separated and it was a lot more meaningful than I anticipated. And
Rebecca Sigala:that actually get divorced. Versus just be separated.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. I was like,
Rebecca Sigala:which is not just separated. It's a whole, you would imagine that that would be just as
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I, I really thought it was just gonna like, The pragmatic in me, it was like, oh, it's whatever. Like, it's the same. Like, I already went through the pain. I already know the difficulty. I,
Rebecca Sigala:yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I know what I'm walking into. And I had no idea. It was like, yeah, it was the, I think it was the worst day of my life.
Rebecca Sigala:Oh my gosh.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:and I was like, neither here nor there. Like, I wanted to be alone, but I wanted to be with people and like my friends weren't available. And like, the only people that were there were like acquaintances. And I felt like the flakiest person in the world. Like I couldn't commit to anything, but I wanted people to be there for me. And I was like, how do I even like explain this state of mind to anyone? I was like, catatonic. Yeah. and that night, like I went to my like. Regular bar. Mm-hmm. and I like pretty much got shit faced because like what, you know, that is, what else do you do when you're getting have a horrible day? Like, I need a drink. Yeah. Um, very understandable. but it was like, I think it, I told this to you, like drinking on an empty soul.
Rebecca Sigala:Ooh.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Not even like so much an empty stomach, but just like,
Rebecca Sigala:oh, I felt the darkness in that. That was, it
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:was,
Rebecca Sigala:yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Super dark.
Rebecca Sigala:You do have a way with words Adi
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:This is my copyright. Exactly. but yeah, it was really dark and like a huge like face down moment and.
Rebecca Sigala:This was the day
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:before
Rebecca Sigala:you reached out to me.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:This, the day before. and it was horrible. It was like all the, like, worst parts of me came out, and I don't even remember half the night. I, I, like, I used to part like, you know, I used to party. Yeah. Not like I, I'm somebody who like, I'm not like that girl, but I was like, that girl that, right. and like, you know, my, my true friends, like I said, they were busy with other things. They weren't there. I had my acquaintances, my like bar friends and like the one person that actually cared about me in the whole situation, I was like, horrible to because, but like I had this sense of like, this is just what I do, whatever, you know? And, um. You didn't want anybody
Rebecca Sigala:to hold you
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:back from this moment. Yeah. Like, I, like, it's almost like I had to just meet like the worst of it. Yeah. like it wasn't enough. Right. and I woke up the next morning with like this huge hangover and feeling nauseous and like messages from people that I'd made, like commitments with. And I, and I knew about it. I like, knew that I had these things going on the next day. And somehow in my mind I was like, well, nothing matters. Like,
Rebecca Sigala:yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:And I,
Rebecca Sigala:and that's so not
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:like you normally, I mean, I think it was at the time, it was like me at the time. It was like the culmination of all the shit and, It was like,
Rebecca Sigala:kind of
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:took
Rebecca Sigala:over.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:it's not who I am. It's not who like I knew myself to be, but it is, it is how I behaved. Do you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. So that's definitely how you
Rebecca Sigala:felt. It's how, yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. And it was like, it was like this. Yeah. It's like nothing mattered. Then I woke up and I was like, through like the pounding headache and through like the surges of like wanting to throw up and like all these fires that I have to now put out, and this person that I actually like, really hurt the night before, and I needed to like, make that okay if I even can. I didn't know. and through all of that, it was like this like. Crystal clarity that, that I matter, you know? Whoa. And like my life matters and the kind of person I'm becoming matters. And like, this isn't who I wanna be and this is not how I want to feel and I never wanna do this again. And wow. I what
Rebecca Sigala:a gift that you had that clarity and that thought.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah, man, it was, I'm super lucky. and so yeah, that day, you know, I was like, I, first of all, I broke up with alcohol and like, haven't missed it since, like, literally like, you know how people do ask. I don't wanna like. Brag about it.'cause I, I don't view it as like sobriety. I don't Right. You know, I never like would place myself under the label of like, alcoholic, you know, I never drank by myself. Right, right. I never like, woke up and needed a drink. Like, it's not Right. I wasn't the problem, but it was still like, I couldn't ignore, like,
Rebecca Sigala:it seems to have to do a lot with your self identity and your self worth and what I, which is why The New Sexy, like, it's not, like you said, it's not about sobriety, it's not like an AA program, but it, it was like you came home to yourself and then seemed to not even.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:When we talked about in the program and we were like, you know, me and others, we were like, well, I'm okay because like, I never had an eating disorder. It's like, I think you didn't hear
Rebecca Sigala:what you're saying.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:And, uh, but yeah, it was, it was literally like seeing a toxic relationship. You know, when you're in a toxic relationship, I hope, like, you know, your friends are all like, dude, this, he's bad for you. And you're like, no, I can fix him. Like, I can make this work. And then until you see it, and then once you, you can't unsee it and in a second huge turn off.
Rebecca Sigala:So was there like, wow, this is just so, it's just so crazy. Like I know You'd mentioned to me before when you reached out to me, but now you are really going through those events. I'm like, how did you reach out to me that next day? Like, you're hungover, your head is pounding, you have this sense of clarity. Like was there like a post was, had you been like it thinking about it before
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:or? I was thinking about it before, but I was thinking about it honestly as a nice to have like, oh, when I've like figured all this shit out.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah, join
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:the new section. That'd be fun. Because that's like what people who have their shit figured out, do they have time to like ruminate about like their relationship with their body and like it's a luxury to be able to do that.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:and so it was like in my thoughts of like something that I would like to do, but it was never, it didn't feel urgent.
Rebecca Sigala:Right.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:And I think just having like that huge face down moment and then that like. Blaze of clarity of like, shit, I'm worth so much more than this.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:and like, the people in my life deserve a better me and I deserve a better me. And Wow. and then you had some posts about The New Sexy, and I was like, I don't really know what that is, to be honest, but I know I wanna be close to whatever this is that, that you have. Wow. And that's been like, it's just been reinforced to me again and again as like exactly the right call.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. Yeah. And I remember when we spoke the first time and. I feel like you reached out to me before, like Shabbat one week and then we spoke on like Sunday or something. I just remember there was like a weekend where a couple days before when you reached out and then we spoke and you told me afterwards that you'd already decided that you wanted to do it before we even spoke. Spoke. Yeah. And what was the main thought? I matter.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:It was like I, matter was like the reason I did anything, the reason I like moved
Rebecca Sigala:Right? Woke up in the morning like,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:yeah, or like start creating some forward motion. but the reason. For wanting to be in The New Sexy. Like, I don't think it mattered. Like I'm glad that it was this,'cause it turned out to be like a perfect fit,
Rebecca Sigala:but I don't think it been, it could have been anything else. It could have been
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:anything. It really could have. I was like, just that the energy and seeing like how far you've come and how many layers of bullshit like you have shed to mm-hmm. And the way that you show up.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm. And,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:and I was right. Like, you know, I was right, some people like tell a good story and sell really well, but then like it's, yeah. On the inside. And also like your coaching style is very different from what I've been used to. And, it was a very positive, healthy. Like a huge boost towards my healing journey and perfect for that like, moment of pivot.
Rebecca Sigala:do you remember what you wanted to get out of it when you first started?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I think I just wanted to stop feeling like shit.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Like, I don't feel like shit, all that, listen, I'm a happy person. Like, my disposition is like, it's positive. I notice sunsets and flowers and like, you know, my kids rhythm of breathing when they're sleeping. Like, I, I am so good at like, you notice
Rebecca Sigala:the little things and you're grateful for
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:them. Yeah. But you know, I feel like. For a long time I had this like sense of like, I'm not, I'm just not in the right place. Like mm-hmm. I'm not where I should be that's
Rebecca Sigala:really hard thought and feeling to have
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:and it's a lot of it has changed, you know? Yeah. And I think, you know, I'm also in therapy. Um, yeah. And I think, you know, we love therapy. doing that and The New Sexy together was like, it's like, it was like a megazord of like healing, of just like development. It was so good.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. I guess that's probably a question someone's probably asking themselves, like, well, okay. You're in this really difficult place. You don't feel like yourself. You don't feel like you're in the place that you should be. Like why do something like The New Sexy? Why not just go to therapy?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:so I started with therapy. Yeah. But it was like, I think these things just take time. So I was in therapy during this whole time when everything was continuing to fall apart. Like, and even like leading me into this like face down moment. It was like, therapy isn't magic.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm-hmm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Um, and neither is The New Sexy, but like the magic happens when you really, truly take ownership over. Your life, your experience, like I, mm-hmm. I know that sounds like super vague, but like
Rebecca Sigala:is it something about that deciding to do something in addition to therapy felt like you were taking ownership or was it that it was focused on specific things or that it was with other people? Or that coaching is just inherently different than therapy? Like, or all of the above?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I think in general, like I believe that you can get a lot more out of coaching when you're in therapy.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah, I agree. You can,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:you can do like the deep, like long-term work and then use the coaching for those like really like specific like points of actionable movement. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. That's a good way to put it. For me, the group. So for anything, right, like if you wanna do a business thing, if you wanna do a marketing thing, I don't know what people do, coaching for relationships, whatever. but like, I think the thing that drew me the most was you. And, so I didn't know. Right. Because like, you have the thing from the outside. That's what I saw yeah. I felt like there was like intunement, there was like a truth. There was like a,
Rebecca Sigala:you just resonated,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:super resonated as like real and not real. Like the struggle, you know, real, like everything. because I don't know, I feel like some people can create relatability through hardship but it like ends there. So you're, basically Oh, oh, you, you, you also hate yourself. Like you also hate your life. We can be buddies, but like, I don't,
Rebecca Sigala:right. I feel like that's like, also like even the foundation of so many body image struggles is like women just like sitting around and hating their bodies with each other.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Exactly. let's like bully ourselves into, you know, a better version of whatever. And, I felt like that wasn't like that with you. You, you also have a way with words. Thank you that I, that I think, and. You were able to just convey like very layered and nuanced and like complex ideas in a way that was like, just like cut through all the noise. I like that a lot. and being in the group was amazing.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. Tell me about that.'cause I guess that is a different thing than therapy where it's usually one-on-one. I mean, there is group therapy too, but
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. No, that's not, that's, that's not, that's not group
Rebecca Sigala:therapy. Therapy.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:It was, just like feeling like. Everybody's here for something. Yeah. but like, they are all so amazing. They're all so, like all the women in the group, I like madly, respected and admired them. and I loved, I, I like, they're so
Rebecca Sigala:fucking cool. Like, every single one of you guys, it was amazing.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:it was just, I think I told you, it sounds like, uh, it, it, I'm gonna sound so bad saying this, but like, sometimes you get in these group programs and you kind of feel like, you kind of feel like you're surrounded by idiots, you know? And, and I know it's like, it's me, fine, whatever. Like, I always, I always try to take the look of like, okay, like we can. We can all learn from each other and we can all learn from each other. We can all, we can all learn, like, you know, how to open a Google Doc together. It's okay. Like, but you know what you're saying. apologies to all the technophobes out there, but like, there was something about like being in a place where it felt like everyone was super reflective and everyone had already done a lot of healing. A lot of healing, and like they, nobody there. Came with like a victim mindset and if they did, they were aware of it and they were like, help me shed this so I can own it, you know?
Rebecca Sigala:Mm-hmm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:So I feel like in other containers, you know, it's either like, everybody's just like this victim, like nothing, is there nothing? They, they don't, they don't own anything. Nothing is their responsibility. Nothing is their fault. Mm-hmm. Nothing is like their, nothing is theirs. Or, or maybe like they wanna stay in their problems kind of thing. It's like more comfortable and whatever. Yeah. And then, or like if the coach has like realized, it's like a huge thing. Right. And coach,'cause you and I know that like, in order for transformation to happen, you have to own your process. Yeah. Of course. But it takes a lot of self trust to do that. Yeah. and to trust the coach. Like it takes a lot of self trust to trust the coach.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Or therapist. You know, anybody who's like leading you through a process that
Rebecca Sigala:that's why I was like, thanks for trusting me, but wait, that means that you trusted yourself. That's really what it means.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. and so I feel like, sometimes I've been personally in containers where the coaches or like the people who are, you know, the client success people, whatever, like they'll like wag their fingers at people who show up, victim-y, where it's like they're guilted into pretending to take ownership, but they, but they don't really, so it creates like yeah. constant like tension. You don't actually get the person to the place where they need to be.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah, it's very, you understand, you not, yeah. It's also very like, not trauma informed and like, not exactly really fucked up. Also that
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Exactly. It's like, this is why you can't coach with anyone, you know?
Rebecca Sigala:And um, yeah. Like this is why you're not seeing the results. Like, I've already coached you on this. Like, you're a piece of shit, basically.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. Like, oh, oh, take responsibility. Like, and it is the end goal to take responsibility, but that's not how you get there. Like, yeah. You need to like, we are all just like hurt, wounded children, right? Like,'cause we're
Rebecca Sigala:all victims. That's the thing. Actually, this is such an interesting concept that you brought up, like. Victimhood this victim mentality. It's something that I struggle with because I find like what you just shared that a lot of times in the coaching world, it's almost like, I don't know, weaponized in a way.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Right? Totally. It's, it's used as like, it's like spiritual bypassing. It's basically like you show up as a victim. They might genuinely want you to get to a more empowered place, but the way that they know how to get you there is to beat you down to be a perpetrator. Yeah. And so like, it just like continues the cycle. And I feel like with you, it was one of the first times that I worked with somebody who was both. Very like down to earth. Like you did not accept bullshit. You kept digging in the hard parts. You didn't like Yeah. You didn't let us, you didn't let me like wiggle out of things. But you also, so like, you know what I'm saying? Like you weren't weak. Exactly. Coach. You were very strong and you held us in so much empathy.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:And that means a lot. And like in tenderness and you were able to see us and it, I, it was like the, the best of both
Rebecca Sigala:world. That's so beautiful. Thank you. Thank you so much. Just like, personally means a lot to me as well.'cause I've, I've been in, you know, situations where I've seen. Yeah, just you and I have spoken about just in the coaching world that, you know, certain places and certain things that I really don't like, that I've seen affect people in a harmful way and myself as well. So that just really means a lot to me. And, I think it's really important because especially with this work that I'm doing exactly, it's all about shame. It's all about, at one point we were all victim and what to victimize ourselves more and to shame ourselves more. And, that just really just perpetuates it and keeps us in that place versus like, let's actually have this be a place where we release that shame so that we can become who we're supposed to be. Exactly. Exactly.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I, I was just gonna say like It becomes so much more important. Like it's important anytime you're trying to get somewhere, but it would just be so ironic if it wasn't so in this type of work.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. Yeah, a hundred percent. did you have any major breakthroughs during The New Sexy when you're like, oh, holy shit, like this is working, or like, this is making me see myself differently. Helping me, helping me, not making me,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:um, yeah, I did. you know what's cool by the way, is like when like that trust and the understanding like between us is so, Like strongly cemented. You can say things like that and I know what you mean.
Rebecca Sigala:Ah, like what?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Like, uh, what they made you do. Like the, you know. Oh yeah. You're, you're like, oh, whatever.
Rebecca Sigala:I get it. And that's also when you can be charif too. Yeah. When you actually trust someone and know that they're there for your best interest.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Exactly.
Rebecca Sigala:That you are not just being a hard-ass coach and don't actually give a shit about the people that you're working with. Yeah. Wait, I feel like you should tell people what you do, because I feel like that will give some context to this conversation.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:yeah. Okay. So I am a business oriented, marketer and My expertise is in copywriting and marketing funnels. and I love it. It's like my favorite, favorite thing to do. I am a nerd. I do it on the weekends. I read about it before I fall asleep. I, this is like every spare minute that I have, which is not much. Let me, this is like what I do. it took me a while to realize that this is like my thing.'cause I was, in this story of like, I am good at a lot of different things.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. Um,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:and I was like, oh no, I'm a jack of all trades and a master of none and, uh, and then I was like, wait a second. I've been doing this marketing thing for like a decade almost pretty good at it. I didn't like do it. What the hell? You know? I've been doing it in my career. I've been doing it as a hobby. Like I've been talking about it to anybody who will listen. so I was like, okay. so yeah, that is my thing. but it's funny that, like you asked, what is like the impact or like the breakthroughs that I had in one of them was in the things that I launched. Like I have, you know, a ton of great ideas. what I consider like really good copy. and like, I would get stuck not on not knowing how to do something or, you know, not having
Rebecca Sigala:like the technical stuff. It wasn't that,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:not, not at all the technical, yeah, I studied computer science, like I'm good with the. But just this guilt, this like shame about not having the habits or, life or behaviors, like all the time of what I had in my head as a picture of like a very successful, marketing professional.
Rebecca Sigala:Hmm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:And it's super interesting. I always refer back to like, I've like really turned this into a symbol, like the Cheetos fingers moment. Yeah.
Rebecca Sigala:Oh my gosh. I was just thinking about this when I was eating Cheetos the other day. It was like, oh my gosh.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Or like. You know that I occasionally like snack in the night and I
Rebecca Sigala:Cheetos
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:and I was,
Rebecca Sigala:and that you would get, like, you would call'em like Cheeto fingers or
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:fingers. Yeah. You get just like cheese, fake cheese powder on your hands and like you're doom scrolling and getting your screen all greasy and you're like sitting there and it's like the picture of blah. Okay. Yeah. Like
Rebecca Sigala:and that to you represented shame.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. It's like this is somebody who does not deserve to have leads coming in the next day. Right. Yeah. And,
Rebecca Sigala:was there like a moment?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. It was like, well, what if I. It's like, wow. It's all like super interconnected to everything as you know, but I'm right. So I'll, I'll finish this thought and then maybe, but it was through our work that we did together was this idea of all the releasing shame work that we've done, has basically let me be like, okay, so like I, didn't get the optimal, number of hours of sleep last night or like, I did not wake up in time for the 5:00 AM club or like, I did not get all my workouts into, you know, I didn't like do all these like, disciplined things that would show me that I'm somebody who deserves to be successful, but what if I like still did, was.
Rebecca Sigala:Deserving
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:or not even, not even like deserving, like what if I had that thought and I still behaved like I should do my fucking work? because the thing would be like, like it didn't
Rebecca Sigala:stop, it didn't change the way you thought about yourself overall
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah, it was just like a thing that I did and not a defining like thing about my character. And that helped me like, you know, get up the next day and get on social media and make content or like launch the program or like tweak my ads instead of being like, even if you ate Cheetos last night past, I'm like, I'm a Cheetos, eating sloth. I don't deserve to optimize my ads. Like, no, just optimize them. Do it. It sounds, sounds ridiculous, but like
Rebecca Sigala:no it doesn't. And I think a lot of people live with those narratives. They might not be aware of'em, but they rule their lives.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I think it's interesting because it leads to like that discipline versus devotion conversation that we had a lot.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. And with respect to like loving your body, you know, we get all, at least like, my personal experience, all these messages from all around about how like you shouldn't like, think quite so highly of yourself.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:You shouldn't be quite so pleased.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm-hmm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:That's like delusional because look at everybody else. Nobody's happy. Yeah. And that is like, that's an emotional thing. So if you know, you're like being run by an emotional hook, you can be like, okay, maybe like I'll, I'll work through that. but the problem I think starts or like get even more difficult to untangle when you rationalize it and the rationale is flawed. Okay. So this is like what I want this is the discipline versus devotion. This is like the thought that tells you that, okay, like maybe I shouldn't hate myself, but I shouldn't really be too pleased. Because if I am like okay with it, then I stop growing.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm-hmm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:And nobody wants to stop growing. Yeah. So you're literally like held in fear of. Of really experiencing that, like acceptance. Yeah. And it's actually the other way around. Both in practical, you know, like to-dos that will serve you. like my campaigns that like needed my attention and not half of it because the other half was busy thinking about how like, I shouldn't, I don't deserve or whatever. Yeah. And how much I suck. Right? Yeah. and in everything else. Like everything else, you know, nobody wants to be the embodiment of that like. Woman who has let herself go, who like doesn't give a shit about anything. Yeah, I was
Rebecca Sigala:gonna ask you about that. Yeah. Like, let's say there's a woman here who's probably most women who are listening to this thinking like, okay, I really wanna like, love myself and accept my body, but I'm afraid I'm gonna let myself go. You're saying that it's not that, what is it?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:It's exactly the opposite. It's exactly the opposite. Yeah. It's like, and I know how scary it is. I, because I've like experienced it because you feel like I'm like holding on for dear life to this. Like, I, I, I think like hating yourself is maybe too dramatic, but like, just like not, not being happy, like always something that like is leaving me like, a lot of
Rebecca Sigala:people like automatically get turned off by this work because they're like, well, I don't hate my body.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. Well that's not. I don't hate
Rebecca Sigala:myself.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Is that enough? Like, don't you wanna feel amazing? Don't,
Rebecca Sigala:hello? Yes. Exactly.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Like, I think in a way I was lucky to be in a place where I like, just so hated where I was.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. It
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:like, it forced me to, and to ask, do something about it. because now I'm way better than, like, I'm okay. You know? Yeah.
Rebecca Sigala:Right. I don't
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:settle, I don't settle for Okay. Anymore. but what I wanted to say was like, you're holding on so tightly to this, like this thought kind of like, I can't stop bullying myself about whatever, because once I let go, I will let myself go. But what you really are doing is allowing yourself to like. soar you when you let go of that shit, shame and everything else. That is, that's not the thing holding you up, that's the thing dragging you down that is like the, that you're carrying and like, and you drop that stuff. You find out that you're floating. You know,
Rebecca Sigala:what was it in The New Sexy that like allowed you to release the grip of that a little bit and realize, okay, I'm actually safe in this joy, in this acceptance, in this contentment of myself in my life.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I think it was a few things, but I, I think a lot of it was the group and. Seeing how, do you remember the conversation that we had and we all, we shared like something about body image and early memories and things like that. And I was like, oh yeah, I, you, I realized like it's not exactly like body image issues in like a traditional sense, but I kind of feel like I shouldn't like myself because it's like unbecoming and everybody was like, yes, this, and suddenly I felt like I wasn't alone in it. Wow. And that has a lot of power and that's why like, I'm so happy that you see this as like a calling and, and a movement that you're creating because it's so needed. Like there are so many of us.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. Almost everybody.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I would think so.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah, but not everybody's ready for this kind of work. Hmm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:But I hope that like one day they will be.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah, me too. I really hope so too. I remember that call really clearly when you're like, wait, so actually some of this stuff that's holding me back from like being my authentic self and like loving where I'm at and being okay with who I am actually does originate from like this body comment that I got.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:when I was
Rebecca Sigala:12 or what, however old you were.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. I had, I think I brought up like two instances that were basically like repeats of each other in terms of how I experienced them, where. I was just like, happily going about my life, feeling happy and satisfied. And you know, one time it was like a classmate and one time it was, my grandfather and yeah. And, and they made, I had a
Rebecca Sigala:grandfather comment too, by the way.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Really?
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. Those grandfathers,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:God bless them. Um,
Rebecca Sigala:God bless them. Exactly.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I had, a friend from like the Bible belt who told me that like one of the most like powerful, passive aggressive disses you can speak is God bless you and your ministry. Oh yeah, totally.
Rebecca Sigala:It's like a southern thing.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:But no, I love my, I love my grandfather and my rest in peace. but it was like, you know, different generations, whatever. But those comments like. Made me go from just being casually happy myself to questioning.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Should I be the, am I smug? Like,
Rebecca Sigala:right. Like in both of those instances, you felt good about yourself and your body, and then someone came in and said, wait, no, you shouldn't be. Or there's something wrong with you. You, you don't look good, you don't, whatever it might have been, you know?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Mm-hmm. And it's like this, it's not that I internalized it as like, I'm not worthy. It's that I internalized it as I'm not worthy of feeling worthy. So it's like, I think it's, I think it's worse. I think it's like, it's just like my trust in myself and like how I see myself and how I see the world. do I have like a warped. Version of reality. Like am I delusional? Am I wrong? I don't like being wrong, you know, nobody does. Yeah. But I really don't like it.
Rebecca Sigala:I am right, I get that. But also, yeah, I think it's a very common thing that even when I talk about confidence, people are like, I don't wanna have an inflated sense of confidence. Like, I don't wanna think I'm hotter than I am. I don't wanna X, y, z. Is that kind of like part of the narrative that you had adopted?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. it's that, and like I think it just eats at your ability to trust yourself, yourself, like your gut, your. How you feel, what you see when I look in the mirror and I see, you know, and I think, like, I love my eyes, like I love that they're like both my moms and my dads together. Like I love that when I, that's so beautiful. You know? I love that when I smile, I like, I, I feel and I look like a joyful child. Like I love that. And,
Rebecca Sigala:and then if someone comes along and says,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:that's the thing. Like after a while they don't have to come along. You do it yourself. Meaning what, what do you mean by that? you immediately like retract the thought because like, ah,
Rebecca Sigala:well, because you've had experiences where either someone commented or you just get the message from society that you're not really allowed to feel that way.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:You internalize it and it becomes like an inner voice that isn't yours, but it's so fucking familiar.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:That you can confuse it very easily for being yours.
Rebecca Sigala:Wow. Yeah, exactly. you have voices in your head that were never really yours, but there without your permission.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah.
Rebecca Sigala:When did you start to realize like, this is really working? I'm really seeing myself differently. Like what was happening in The New Sexy?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Wow. So much was happening. I, I had like so many insights all the time. Like I would write like a maniac every time,
Rebecca Sigala:every call or just like,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:yeah. Yeah. every call. And I would, I'm a super like, integrative person. Like that's my personality is to continue and like, try to
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. You know, you'd be coached on something and like the next week you'd be like, oh yeah, that, that's me. I did that. I did that already.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. Because it's important, you know, like,
Rebecca Sigala:okay, next.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah.
Rebecca Sigala:yeah, it's important, but like, not everyone's able to implement like that. It's pretty impressive.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Thank you. Thank you. I think by the way, part of like being able to sustain that is because I always. Show up to programs like wanting to, with the fullest intention of being like the Hermione Granger of the group and like, you
Rebecca Sigala:know, yeah, I know the answer.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I
Rebecca Sigala:know the answer. Yeah. I did
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:all my homework. and I didn't get
Rebecca Sigala:that vibe from you though,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:because I didn't need to be her. I was like, yeah, you really like, created this space where it was okay to be like the person with Cheetos fingers. And because of that, I have been able to very sustainably keep like, growing and ironically like away from the Cheetos eating sloth. but, but not out of shame, out of love. Like, dude, it's, yes, it's getting late. I deserve to sleep.
Rebecca Sigala:Ugh.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I don't know. It just.
Rebecca Sigala:Because the shame just feeds the shame. And then you end up doing things that are not actually serving you, versus if you release the shame and it doesn't mean anything about you, then you're gonna choose the thing that serves you more often.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. And more sustainably. Yeah. Like you, there's only like, shame works. It works. Yeah. But it's, it's very short term gain. And it has a cost. Yes. and self-love doesn't have that cost. Yeah. it will just keep you going up, up, up and up up into the right. Yeah.
Rebecca Sigala:It might not always feel. So immediate. I don't know. What was your experience? Maybe it was immediate. Maybe
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:it immediately felt different. I like, would really get a rush from, like heroic effort and from, you know,
Rebecca Sigala:doing something differently than you've ever done before. Something like that.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:just doing something that listen, I still think there's like a time and place for, so I don't wanna get too, like, dogmatic about like, the dichotomy of, you know, yeah. Approaches. but we talked about how like, You know, I, I went in like believing in a very like, Hormozian approach to harm life. Is that a
Rebecca Sigala:term? Do people, I'm sure people say that
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:maybe. I dunno,
Rebecca Sigala:but I'm like, we're coining it,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:and I realized like it's cool that I can do that. Right? Like it's cool that I can, do something even when I don't feel like it. It's cool that I can like force myself to do something, but like, first of all, the goals have to be chosen out of devotion and love.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Then you have a reason.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Um, already it's
Rebecca Sigala:different.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah.
Rebecca Sigala:Already it's totally different. Then it's like
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:when, it's like when you have, you know, a newborn, like, do you wanna get up in the middle of the night? No. Yeah. But you're, you do it and.
Rebecca Sigala:I mean, I could work for 20 hours straight on my business. Will I, I mean, if I had to, if I felt that the goal was loving. Exactly.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:And I also feel like the more I learn about Alex Hormozi and especially his wife, Layla Hormozi who is like amazing in her own right and she like, now
Rebecca Sigala:I keep seeing you like, on Instagram, I'll see you like their stuff or comment on stuff. I love, I love, there's,
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:first of all, they're such a cute couple I'm obsessed with. I just, I, I love them so much. I can't even explain it. I appreciate everything they do, but I realized like the stuff That they've gone through. It's like they don't do things out of shame.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm-hmm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:They also do things out of extreme devotion. Alex Hormozi has like, this is my interpretation, but like a very, like specific, view of what an ideal world looks like. And he is in love with that vision.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm-hmm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:And it gives him,
Rebecca Sigala:well, I mean, I don't know about you, and we don't have to go into this too much, but like, some of the things that have helped me and like reading his books and hearing a bit about his approach is not necessarily the discipline as we've known what discipline is in the past, but more of like. I feel like when he talks about things, he talks about things so plainly in a way where it isn't really that your worth is connected to these things Yeah. That you're doing. Yeah. And so it's so much easier to do something like, oh, okay, like I have this like income goal, or I have, I wanna build my business in a specific way. But, but he talks about it very much like, it's not like you have to be good enough in order to reach that goal. There's just this strategy or there's this approach. Yeah. And like there's like a
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:checklist of things
Rebecca Sigala:that you have to Yeah. And I think for me, that's very, I think for anyone that would be very helpful because your worth is not tied up in
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Right. That, do you know what I mean? Yeah. I, I think just like it takes most people that I know a while to get to a place where they've disconnected it.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. That's really the work that you've been doing is like all of these things that once maybe meant something about you or what you deserve or you know, or who you are Yeah. Is like, it's not that anymore because you more clearly see and experience your inherent worth.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Exactly. Like, I'm good. Remember I'm the, the
Rebecca Sigala:Yes. Oh my God. I feel like that is such a pinnacle moment right there. I, I'm good.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I'm good. Like, you're good baby girl. Like, you're good, you're good. You don't need to prove anything. Like you're good. You're already good. Start with that and then like, you wanna do this? Great. Here's how you do it. Do the actions. Doesn't matter how much. Yeah. Like none of the other shit matters. It's like you said, they're separate,
Rebecca Sigala:I feel like the I am good. Like, you're good baby girl. Like, that is like literally the theme of this journey so far. how has being able to see your goodness and see your worth? Impacted your everyday life. What is it like for you now on the other side of the first phase of The New Sexy?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I'm just more, I just feel more grounded, you know? Mm-hmm. tangibly. cause there are like a lot of tangibles. like feeling wise, I just feel like this like centered groundedness. I almost feel like I have, I was talking about it to my therapist today, like, I have more mass to me, I feel not heavier, but like, just grounded. Yes. Like rooted. Rooted. Like, I'm not like this flailing like, you know, and this like sovereignty. and practically it's everything. I just feel like, you know, my life is like, my life is wild. Like I am running my marketing business. I have four kids who are boys. Oh wow. you know, ADHD for probably all across the board, probably all, all of them and me. Yes. shared custody with my ex-husband and like doing all this stuff, like, we haven't even gone into like the pole dancing and that and all that stuff, but like, it always has just felt so hard and so lucky when it didn't feel hard and now it's like I wake up in the morning, I feel the blanket on my body. I feel, you know, the like breeze from my windows. I wake up and I make my bed'cause I deserve to have a made bed. And I walk downstairs of my new house because the other place was a shit hole. and I deserved better. You moved during
Rebecca Sigala:The New Sexy?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I moved. I could have like the other place had like structural issues. This place is like better, but I could have like taken bad habits out of there, the old place and transferred them here and instead, I built a home.
Rebecca Sigala:Mm-hmm.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Do you remember in I think it was maybe the first call that we had, the first group call that we had, and you asked us to envision like a place where we feel safe. Yeah. And I was just, I started crying'cause I realized like, I can't even recall a place like that. I don't have that. Wow. and I feel like I've created it.
Rebecca Sigala:You have.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:And, you know, and I go downstairs And my house is clean and I didn't kill myself doing it. it sounds like such like small examples, you know, but everything is just easier and better and, it's not like everything's perfect, but like, obviously
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. seems like you're very aligned, like your life and the way you're living feels very aligned with this real
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:part of you. Yeah. exactly. It's aligned, it's intentional. It's like, you know. I think this goes back to like authenticity. It's like, yeah, really choosing the things that I do and where I invest my time and my energy and like, my mind space. because of that like devotion and, and love to that you
Rebecca Sigala:have for yourself that you've been cultivating. And also because of the fact that you can really see yourself clearly. It's not jaded by other people's opinions or what society thinks about you or how you should feel about yourself. It's like, okay, I see myself, I know myself, and like these things make sense in my life. This action is loving towards myself. Like you can make these decisions from a place of really trusting yourself and being in alignment because you know yourself and you see yourself. I mean, it sounds so simple, but it's so deep
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:and it I feel like it makes me a better person too because, I think that I was more selfish when I didn't love myself.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. Oh my God. I feel like that could be a whole podcast. Yes. Yeah, because we, we don't realize it, but like pain and discontentment actually keeps us very invested in ourselves it's not that we're to blame, like that's just how things work, but when we are unhappy and dissatisfied with ourselves and our lives, we focus on ourselves more.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. Or like you're so concerned with putting others first, that you end up in a really, like, twisted, fucked up way, like putting yourself first, you know? Yeah,
Rebecca Sigala:yeah, Because it's like about making yourself feel a certain way about yourself.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah.
Rebecca Sigala:Wow. Oh my gosh. We need like part two and three of this. so what's next? You joined The Year of Becoming, which I'm so freaking excited to just like continue this journey with you and, yeah. What's next? what do you feel like you want to create in this coming 12 months of working together?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:I think like The New Sexy was good for where I was for like really like, it was like a light in the dark. It was like,
Rebecca Sigala:mm, like really
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:pulling out of that really like bad like face down place. and I think that now. It's about fine tuning that even further into like, an amazeballs like iresistable life. And I just can't wait to be in the energy of that. Hmm. It's, it's so uplifting and it's the kind of uplifting that lasts, you know?
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. Like, it's not just like a adrenaline rush or Yeah. A dopamine hit. It's, it's not a dopamine hit. No. It's like I'm actually content with my body, with my life, with who I am
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:and it's like It does something to your identity and like how, like the stories you tell about yourself to yourself mm-hmm. when you're part of something like that. yeah.
Rebecca Sigala:Yeah. That's what I was thinking when you were talking about like, the group is like, how much, that helps with our sense of identity because it's like, oh, okay. Like I'm with these women that like, I really respect Yeah. And that means that I'm part of this and I respect myself too. Like it's all one.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:Yeah. Yeah. It's like if they're so amazing, obviously I'm one of them. Yes. Yeah. Wow. Um, yeah, and I'm excited for that and like I'm sure I'll be surprised by what happens. Um, yeah. I'm good.
Rebecca Sigala:Totally. is there something that you like, wish that more women would know or understand about confidence, about body image, about self love or just people, it doesn't need to be women. Yeah. I, we love men too, right?
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:We're okay. They're all right. They're alright. no, I Some of them, yeah, men are, men are great. Yes. Um, but put
Rebecca Sigala:that on the record.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:But like, I, I think we, talked about it like a lot, but maybe worth repeating is like that do not believe the illusion that if you accept yourself and love yourself and are like happy with yourself, then you will stop growing. when you do that, you give yourself permission to want more and to aim for more and to not shame yourself out of having more, whatever you
Rebecca Sigala:actually desire, who you're meant to
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:become. Yeah.
Rebecca Sigala:Yes. Oh my gosh, that's such a beautiful way to end. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks for coming on.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:So fun. Thank you for the, this was just such a fun conversation to have
Rebecca Sigala:so much fun. And I feel like we even just, there's so many places where we just touched the surface, which is so funny'cause we've been talking for so long. But, I think that people really get so much outta this and your journey is just so beautiful and inspiring and I'm really honored to walk alongside you. Thank you, mutual. Mm, thanks.
Adi Zelnik Nouriel:All right.